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Any Point Getting a Digital Scanner in the UK?
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NewUKScanner
2004-02-01 03:09:24 UTC
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Is there any benefit in buying a digital scanner over an analouge one,
for use in the UK?

I saw the following for sale:

Uniden BC296D digital scanner with APCO P-25 digital card.
UNIDEN DIGITAL SCANNER BC250D & Bci25d CARD $249.95.

Is there anything using this project 25 thing in the uk?

Thanks.
proma1
2004-02-01 04:43:28 UTC
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there are users on mildenhall usafe base and indeed our customs but then if
they are using encryption as well as digital the digital scanners in the US
will still not resolve the signals


customms were suposed to be using encrytion on the signal but in some areas
asked for it to be turned off as they were having problems,so yes if lucky.


we currently have one known digital handy in the UK and am awaiting results
on known users
Post by NewUKScanner
Is there any benefit in buying a digital scanner over an analouge one,
for use in the UK?
Uniden BC296D digital scanner with APCO P-25 digital card.
UNIDEN DIGITAL SCANNER BC250D & Bci25d CARD $249.95.
Is there anything using this project 25 thing in the uk?
Thanks.
Mike GW8IJT
2004-02-01 16:05:23 UTC
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Post by proma1
there are users on mildenhall usafe base and indeed our customs but then if
they are using encryption as well as digital the digital scanners in the US
will still not resolve the signals
customms were suposed to be using encrytion on the signal but in some areas
asked for it to be turned off as they were having problems,so yes if lucky.
we currently have one known digital handy in the UK and am awaiting results
on known users
Post by NewUKScanner
Is there any benefit in buying a digital scanner over an analouge one,
for use in the UK?
Uniden BC296D digital scanner with APCO P-25 digital card.
UNIDEN DIGITAL SCANNER BC250D & Bci25d CARD $249.95.
Is there anything using this project 25 thing in the uk?
Thanks.
I would have thought that the government would have forced HM C & E to use
Airwave like the police.
Mike.



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proma1
2004-02-01 17:23:32 UTC
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eventually yes but the contracts were done a couple of years ago and lots of
money spent on it.


Customs were supposed to be using everything digital and encrypted APCO 25
but as said,they did not get on with the encyrpytion.

also i have been in the middle recently of a customs surveillance and they
were using there old analogue comms on an old freq of theres.


so even the APCO they dont use all the time
Post by Mike GW8IJT
Post by proma1
there are users on mildenhall usafe base and indeed our customs but then if
they are using encryption as well as digital the digital scanners in the US
will still not resolve the signals
customms were suposed to be using encrytion on the signal but in some areas
asked for it to be turned off as they were having problems,so yes if lucky.
we currently have one known digital handy in the UK and am awaiting results
on known users
Post by NewUKScanner
Is there any benefit in buying a digital scanner over an analouge one,
for use in the UK?
Uniden BC296D digital scanner with APCO P-25 digital card.
UNIDEN DIGITAL SCANNER BC250D & Bci25d CARD $249.95.
Is there anything using this project 25 thing in the uk?
Thanks.
I would have thought that the government would have forced HM C & E to use
Airwave like the police.
Mike.
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Mike GW8IJT
2004-02-01 22:46:12 UTC
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Post by proma1
eventually yes but the contracts were done a couple of years ago and lots of
money spent on it.
Customs were supposed to be using everything digital and encrypted APCO 25
but as said,they did not get on with the encyrpytion.
also i have been in the middle recently of a customs surveillance and they
were using there old analogue comms on an old freq of theres.
so even the APCO they dont use all the time
Cheers, mate, I've learnt something new :-o)
But I won't be buying an Apco 25 scanner.
Mike.



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NewUKScanner
2004-02-02 17:49:59 UTC
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What would you recommend I buy for future proof?
Post by Mike GW8IJT
Post by proma1
eventually yes but the contracts were done a couple of years ago and lots of
money spent on it.
Customs were supposed to be using everything digital and encrypted APCO 25
but as said,they did not get on with the encyrpytion.
also i have been in the middle recently of a customs surveillance and they
were using there old analogue comms on an old freq of theres.
so even the APCO they dont use all the time
Cheers, mate, I've learnt something new :-o)
But I won't be buying an Apco 25 scanner.
Mike.
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Mike GW8IJT
2004-02-04 11:18:30 UTC
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Post by NewUKScanner
What would you recommend I buy for future proof?
I certainly wouldn't recommend top posting.
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Dogtanian
2004-02-02 20:35:30 UTC
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"proma1" <***@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:***@news.teranews.com...
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I wouldn't brag on here that i listen to h.m govt. transmissions?
proma1
2004-02-02 22:55:52 UTC
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somehow i think they now


so whats the point of saying otherwise
Post by Dogtanian
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I wouldn't brag on here that i listen to h.m govt. transmissions?
Tony
2004-02-03 03:46:11 UTC
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Post by NewUKScanner
Is there any benefit in buying a digital scanner over an analouge one,
for use in the UK?
It's not worth buying an analog scanner nowadays, never mind a digital
one!

With most of the interesting users rapidly going over to encrypted
digital (Airwave etc.), the UK scanning hobby is nearly dead and will
be *totally* dead within the next year or so, IMHO.

And before anyone jumps in and tells me to monitor "shopwatch",
airband or local council frequencies, I'd like to say that I've tried,
and found that watching a patch of Dulux drying *vastly* more
interesting.

RIP - UK Scanning :-(
Troy R.
2004-02-03 05:58:57 UTC
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So what you mean to say is that scanning is dead for you. For people that
listen to other things, i.e. airband, then nothing has really changed.
Post by Tony
Post by NewUKScanner
Is there any benefit in buying a digital scanner over an analouge one,
for use in the UK?
It's not worth buying an analog scanner nowadays, never mind a digital
one!
With most of the interesting users rapidly going over to encrypted
digital (Airwave etc.), the UK scanning hobby is nearly dead and will
be *totally* dead within the next year or so, IMHO.
And before anyone jumps in and tells me to monitor "shopwatch",
airband or local council frequencies, I'd like to say that I've tried,
and found that watching a patch of Dulux drying *vastly* more
interesting.
RIP - UK Scanning :-(
proma1
2004-02-03 09:16:35 UTC
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its him who is missing out


there never has been so much to listen to since scanners came out

i have brought 3 new scanners in last 3 weeks cheap and secondhand,the one i
really want i cant afford,but maybe by the endo of the year,i have one of
them already but the BC250 is so good i want another one.


i really cant see ok one time you listened to a shopwatch it was boring

well most times onb police it is boring

yes major incidents/riots/public disorder/major events/royal and special
visits then i go out of my way to go to where the action is,but

burglary down the road,someone pnched his wife is boring as well.


car chases again good fun to listen to,but in an average day prob an hours
action,the rest is routine.

remember to keep an eye on your local town centre and area the only way in
future will be shopwatch/commnity wardens etc.

so get with it,thousands of people scan other things than just police,police
is 1% of my hobby
Post by Troy R.
So what you mean to say is that scanning is dead for you. For people that
listen to other things, i.e. airband, then nothing has really changed.
Post by Tony
Post by NewUKScanner
Is there any benefit in buying a digital scanner over an analouge one,
for use in the UK?
It's not worth buying an analog scanner nowadays, never mind a digital
one!
With most of the interesting users rapidly going over to encrypted
digital (Airwave etc.), the UK scanning hobby is nearly dead and will
be *totally* dead within the next year or so, IMHO.
And before anyone jumps in and tells me to monitor "shopwatch",
airband or local council frequencies, I'd like to say that I've tried,
and found that watching a patch of Dulux drying *vastly* more
interesting.
RIP - UK Scanning :-(
NewUKScanner
2004-02-04 19:07:40 UTC
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I see you have the BC250, are there any listenable digital
transmissions out there. Do you have the APOC29 card?
Post by proma1
its him who is missing out
there never has been so much to listen to since scanners came out
i have brought 3 new scanners in last 3 weeks cheap and secondhand,the one i
really want i cant afford,but maybe by the endo of the year,i have one of
them already but the BC250 is so good i want another one.
i really cant see ok one time you listened to a shopwatch it was boring
well most times onb police it is boring
yes major incidents/riots/public disorder/major events/royal and special
visits then i go out of my way to go to where the action is,but
burglary down the road,someone pnched his wife is boring as well.
car chases again good fun to listen to,but in an average day prob an hours
action,the rest is routine.
remember to keep an eye on your local town centre and area the only way in
future will be shopwatch/commnity wardens etc.
so get with it,thousands of people scan other things than just police,police
is 1% of my hobby
Post by Troy R.
So what you mean to say is that scanning is dead for you. For people that
listen to other things, i.e. airband, then nothing has really changed.
Post by Tony
Post by NewUKScanner
Is there any benefit in buying a digital scanner over an analouge one,
for use in the UK?
It's not worth buying an analog scanner nowadays, never mind a digital
one!
With most of the interesting users rapidly going over to encrypted
digital (Airwave etc.), the UK scanning hobby is nearly dead and will
be *totally* dead within the next year or so, IMHO.
And before anyone jumps in and tells me to monitor "shopwatch",
airband or local council frequencies, I'd like to say that I've tried,
and found that watching a patch of Dulux drying *vastly* more
interesting.
RIP - UK Scanning :-(
proma1
2004-02-05 20:06:52 UTC
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no i dont have the card


only UK customs and a few users at some US mil bases use it and some of them
will use it Encytrpted


i intend to get another one later this year if i can affrod it


its excelllant on all bands,ctcss,dcs 1000 mems,alpha taggin etc

i use for airband military and civil and also met police london trunk freqs
Post by NewUKScanner
I see you have the BC250, are there any listenable digital
transmissions out there. Do you have the APOC29 card?
Post by proma1
its him who is missing out
there never has been so much to listen to since scanners came out
i have brought 3 new scanners in last 3 weeks cheap and secondhand,the one i
really want i cant afford,but maybe by the endo of the year,i have one of
them already but the BC250 is so good i want another one.
i really cant see ok one time you listened to a shopwatch it was boring
well most times onb police it is boring
yes major incidents/riots/public disorder/major events/royal and special
visits then i go out of my way to go to where the action is,but
burglary down the road,someone pnched his wife is boring as well.
car chases again good fun to listen to,but in an average day prob an hours
action,the rest is routine.
remember to keep an eye on your local town centre and area the only way in
future will be shopwatch/commnity wardens etc.
so get with it,thousands of people scan other things than just police,police
is 1% of my hobby
Post by Troy R.
So what you mean to say is that scanning is dead for you. For people that
listen to other things, i.e. airband, then nothing has really changed.
Post by Tony
Post by NewUKScanner
Is there any benefit in buying a digital scanner over an analouge one,
for use in the UK?
It's not worth buying an analog scanner nowadays, never mind a digital
one!
With most of the interesting users rapidly going over to encrypted
digital (Airwave etc.), the UK scanning hobby is nearly dead and will
be *totally* dead within the next year or so, IMHO.
And before anyone jumps in and tells me to monitor "shopwatch",
airband or local council frequencies, I'd like to say that I've tried,
and found that watching a patch of Dulux drying *vastly* more
interesting.
RIP - UK Scanning :-(
RustY ©
2004-02-06 16:01:56 UTC
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Post by Tony
And before anyone jumps in and tells me to monitor "shopwatch",
airband or local council frequencies, I'd like to say that I've tried,
and found that watching a patch of Dulux drying *vastly* more
interesting.
Then you need to sell up and move on.
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